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Mislim da je u ovom trenutku definitivno bitno kompletno napustiti Mir, a ne trošiti vrijeme za njegov daljnji razvoj. Unitiy definitivno usmjeriti na Wayland bez obzira koliko će to uzeti vremena i ojačati razvoj Waylanda koliko je god moguće.
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Ako ništa drugo, do kraja dana bi nakon godina i godina Ubuntu mogao preteći Mint na DW.
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http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_ ... CEO-Return
There's a big meeting going on today at Canonical regarding changes being made at the company. This follows the dramatic news this week of Ubuntu dropping Unity 8 and switching back to GNOME Shell. There's now information obtained that Mark is planning to reprise the role of CEO.
Danas je veliki sastanak u Canonicalu na temu trenutnih promjena i nepotvrđene informacije govore da će Mark Shuttleworth ponovno biti CEO Canonicala.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/red-hat- ... 4661.shtml
"So as most of you probably know Mark Shuttleworth just announced that they would be switching to GNOME 3 and Wayland again for Ubuntu. So I would like to, on behalf of the Red Hat Desktop and Fedora teams, welcome them and say that we look forward to keep working with great Canonical and Ubuntu people like Allison Lortie and Robert Ancell on projects of shared interest around GNOME, Wayland and hopefully Flatpak."
RedHat i Fedora timovi pozdravljaju povratak Ubuntua Gnomeu i raduju se suradnji sa ljudima iz Canonicala i Ubuntua.
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https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/ ... ed-kernel/
Canonical and Amazon Web Services have been working closely together to create the best experience of the world’s most popular cloud OS, on the world’s most popular public cloud. Official Ubuntu guest images have been available on AWS for years, and underlie the majority of workloads on the service—whether you use the EC2 Quickstart, Marketplace, or Lightsail. This week, and for the first time on the public cloud, Canonical, in collaboration with Amazon, is delighted to announce the availability of an AWS-tuned Ubuntu kernel for the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS release.

As of March 29th, Ubuntu Cloud Images for Amazon have been enabled with the AWS-tuned Ubuntu kernel by default. The AWS-tuned Ubuntu kernel will receive the same level of support and security maintenance as all supported Ubuntu kernels for the duration of the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.

The kernel itself is provided by the linux-aws kernel package. The most notable highlights for this kernel include:

Up to 30% faster kernel boot speeds, on a 15% smaller kernel package
Full support for Elastic Network Adapter (ENA), including the latest driver version 1.1.2, supporting up to 20 Gbps network speeds for ENA instance types (currently I3, P2, R4, X1, and m4.16xlarge)
Improved i3 instance class support with NVMe storage disks under high IO load
Increased I/O performance for i3 instances
Improved instance initialization with NVMe backed storage disks
Disabled CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL to eliminate deadlocks on some instance types
Resolved CPU throttling with AWS t2.micro instances
Ubuntu 16.04 LTS za Amazon AWS cloud sada može imati i kernel posebno podešen za AWS i razvijen u suradnji Canonicala i Amazon Web Services.

https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/ ... -linuxone/
Imagine a world where developers can quickly stand-up new applications and database instances – without having to worry about limits to database growth or risks to data security.

Now imagine a world where enterprises and service providers can combine this outstanding scalability and security with the benefits of relational and NoSQL data in the cloud – so avoiding the need to install, configure or maintain the underlying database.

This is the world of Database-as-a-Service on LinuxONE, and it was previewed at IBM InterConnect, as well now being available as a reference architecture.

Database-as-a-Service – or DBaaS as it’s commonly known – makes life simpler both for enterprises extending their capabilities into new data types, and for Cloud Service Providers looking to offer additional services to their customers.

DBaaS can also make life easier for infrastructure sysadmins, database administrators and service provider developers – as well of course for next gen application developers.

Ubuntu on LinuxOne

Imagine a world where developers can quickly stand-up new applications and database instances – without having to worry about limits to database growth or risks to data security.

Now imagine a world where enterprises and service providers can combine this outstanding scalability and security with the benefits of relational and NoSQL data in the cloud – so avoiding the need to install, configure or maintain the underlying database.

This is the world of Database-as-a-Service on LinuxONE, and it was previewed at IBM InterConnect, as well now being available as a reference architecture.

Database-as-a-Service – or DBaaS as it’s commonly known – makes life simpler both for enterprises extending their capabilities into new data types, and for Cloud Service Providers looking to offer additional services to their customers.

DBaaS can also make life easier for infrastructure sysadmins, database administrators and service provider developers – as well of course for next gen application developers.

DBaaS on LinuxONE

IBM has designed a reference architecture which explains how to set up Database-as-a-Service on LinuxONE.

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DB2 PostgreSQL MongoDB Enterprise
Ubuntu OpenStack with Trove
Ubuntu Linux
IBM LinuxONE
The key DBaaS components – shown in blue in the above diagram – are:

A choice of databases – starting with IBM’s DB2, the open source relational database PostgreSQL, and the NoSQL database
MongoDB Enterprise – and extendable to other database
Ubuntu OpenStack – providing IaaS function and management – plus Trove (a component of OpenStack) which offers DBaaS capabilities
Ubuntu Linux – providing the underlying operating system
IBM LinuxONE – offering scalable, fast and secure server hardware
DBaaS na IBMovom LinuxONE sa Ubuntu Linuxom.
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http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_ ... G-Comments
We will invest in Ubuntu GNOME with the intent of delivering a fantastic all-GNOME desktop. We're helping the Ubuntu GNOME team, not creating something different or competitive with that effort. While I am passionate about the design ideas in Unity, and hope GNOME may be more open to them now, I think we should respect the GNOME design leadership by delivering GNOME the way GNOME wants it delivered.

Our role in that, as usual, will be to make sure that upgrades, integration, security, performance and the full experience are fantastic.
But Mark does hope GNOME developers may consider some Unity ideas:

sad days indeed. But code is ephemeral, and ideas are forever, so lets see where those ideas take root. I am sure that Ubuntu GNOME will be something the GNOME community is proud of, and perhaps they will be open to embracing some ideas from Unity too.
But don't expect GNOME (or KDE) to pickup on the Unity 8 "convergence" goals. Mark says both GNOME and KDE had shot down convergence.

I did, personally, attempt to get the convergence movement going in both GNOME and KDE. In both cases, the ideas were resoundingly rejected. We hired designers initially, but the feedback from GNOME (well, Red Hat really ;)) was "who do you think you are to show up and tell us what GNOME should look like when you are not bringing code". And that's fair enough really, it's their desktop. Although I would say, code got rejected pretty aggressively too ;)

In the KDE case, it was more about the personality of the leader at the time, who I think felt threatened and insecure.
Unity7 packages will continue to be carried in the archive, I know there are quite a few people who care enough about it to keep it up to date. I expect it will be in universe for 18.04 LTS.
we have lots of IoT projects using Mir as a compositor so that code continues to receive investment. I agree, it's a very fast, clean and powerful graphics composition engine, and smart people love it for that.

The whole Mir hate-fest boggled my mind - it's free software that does something invisible really well. It became a political topic as irrational as climate change or gun control, where being on one side or the other was a sign of tribal allegiance. We have a problem in the community when people choose to hate free software instead of loving that someone cares enough to take their life's work and make it freely available.

I came to be disgusted with the hate on Mir. Really, it changed my opinion of the free software community.

I used to think that it was a privilege to serve people who also loved the idea of service, but now I think many members of the free software community are just deeply anti-social types who love to hate on whatever is mainstream. When Windows was mainstream they hated on it. Rationally, Windows does many things well and deserves respect for those. And when Canonical went mainstream, it became the focus of irrational hatred too. The very same muppets would write about how terrible it was that IOS/Android had no competition and then how terrible it was that Canonical was investing in (free software!) compositing and convergence. Fuck that shit.
Snaps will continue, so don't expect them to defenestrate that too in favor of Flatpak.

yes, snaps continue for Ubuntu and other distributions (now Fedora, openSUSE, Debian and others). They will also integrate fully with GNOME, KDE, and I hope Elementary, MATE etc too. They are an amazingly clean way to deliver apps and since most of the major software companies target Ubuntu this is a good way to enable other distros to benefit too.
Mark Shuttleworth komentirao detalje vezane za prelazak na Gnome i u vezi ostalih detalja. Zanimljivo je da su Gnome i KDE odbili ideje konvergencije što bi značilo da originalno se pokušalo ići preko Gnomea ili KDEa, a ne direktno na Unity 8. Isti taj KDE sada radi na svojem Plasma Mobileu pface

Ovo zadnje što sam boldao je totalno točno, koliko sam pročitao komentara od ljudi na Internetu kako je loše što Android i iOS nemaju open source konkurenciju i što nemamo pravi Linux mobitel, a istovremeno dobar dio tih istih ljudi su bili izrazito protiv Ubuntu Toucha koji je potpuno open source pface E sada kada Ubuntu Touch više ne postoji, osim ako nekim čudom ga netko treći ne bude uspio razvijati, kada je FirefoxOS mrtav, a SailfishOS isto praktički mrtav ali ni potpuno open source, neka i dalje kukaju kako nema konkurencije Androidu i iOSu.

Uopće me ne čudi ovo njegovo "fuck this shit", čovjeku je puna kapa open source special snowflakeova, mislim da to fuck this shit dobro opisuje i ovu odluku da ugasi te projekte i okrene se onom što donosi novac, jer očito je da šira Linux zajednica nema ozbiljnog interesa da promijeni status quo u bilo čemu. Da je KDE na primjer prihvatio ideju konvergencije i da su developeri i izvan Canonicala i Ubuntua stali iza Ubuntu Toucha danas bi možda imali već završenu konvergenciju (na kojoj god bazi Unity 8/KDE/Wayland itd) i takve mobitele u džepu, ovako imamo fuck this shit.
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E sada kada Ubuntu Touch više ne postoji, osim ako nekim čudom ga netko treći ne bude uspio razvijati, kada je FirefoxOS mrtav, a SailfishOS isto praktički mrtav ali ni potpuno open source, neka i dalje kukaju kako nema konkurencije Androidu i iOSu.
Ovdje se na forumu uglavnom kuka što nema još jednog komercijalnog desktopa. :lulz
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Umjesto da je zahvalan open source zajednici što je uopće imao iz čega praviti Ubuntu.
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Pa što ima veze što je netko na internetu protiv nečeg? Kao da te to nekako spriječava da radiš.

Donosiš previše zaključaka, a nemaš info što se događalo sve iza toga.
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article ... evelopers/

Canonical je gurao Mir svima niz grlo, a Wayland je otišao već dalje u razvoju. Prema razvijatelju elemetaryja gtk je trebao biti građanin drugog reda kod Mir-a
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hrvooje je napisao/la:Pa što ima veze što je netko na internetu protiv nečeg? Kao da te to nekako spriječava da radiš.

Donosiš previše zaključaka, a nemaš info što se događalo sve iza toga.
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article ... evelopers/

Canonical je gurao Mir svima niz grlo, a Wayland je otišao već dalje u razvoju. Prema razvijatelju elemetaryja gtk je trebao biti građanin drugog reda kod Mir-a
Nije stvar da su oni bili protiv konvergencije, nju je dokrajčilo to što je razvoj postao preskup, a preslab interes šire Linux i tehnološke zajednice. Da Gnome i KDE nisu bili protiv, nego da su odlučili ići sa projektom danas bi stvari izgledale drukčije, vjerojatno ne bi ni postojao Mir jer bi se dogovorile sve strane da će ići preko Waylanda.

Stvari nisu tako crno bijele jer svaka priča ima dvije strane i nije nikada samo isključiva krivica jedne strane, imao sam osobnu diskusiju sa jednim od glavnih razvijatelja KDEa i tip nije znao odgovoriti na neka moja pitanja u vezi Canonicala/Ubuntua/Unity 8/Mira/Wayland, odnosno da budem točniji izmotavao se i nije htjeo izravno odgovoriti, a najškakljivija pitanja gdje je pozvan da objasni i argumentira neke svoje izjave je potpuno ignorirao, tip ima OSOBNI, ne tehnološki animozitet prema Canonicalu i Ubuntuu, na to ti Shuttleworth hinta kada spominje KDE i jednog od njegovih leadera.

I radi se točno o onome što govori Shuttleworth, tip je bio u strahu da će mu netko oduzeti igračku odnosno da ako se uključe Canonicalovi developeri u cijelu priču da on više neće biti big shot, a tip očito ima problema sa samopouzdanjem jer mu to jednostavno vrišti iz postova, a i iz odgovora koje sam od njega dobivao. Navodno odrasla osoba se ponaša kao derište kojem je netko uzeo igračku na bilo kakav i najmanji hint da bi se netko mogao "umiješati" njemu u njegov posao. Tip je klasičan primjer special snowflakea.

Isti taj tip iz KDEa danas podržava Plasma Mobile koji čak koristi elemente Ubuntu Toucha i Kubuntua za svoju bazu, štaviše koriste Ubuntu i kao bazu za KDE Neon. Ne znam kako čovjeka nije sram to sve koristiti nakon svega što je negativno izgovorio na račun Canonicala i Ubuntua. Licemjerje za primjer. Tip je i priznao da ne želi prihvaćati Canonicalove patcheve iz političkih razloga, ne tehnoloških nego političkih odnosno ideoloških i to prvenstveno njega samog.

Znači tip je samoinicijativno odlučio da će odbiti patcheve, što je potpuno u duhu open sourcea, dogovora i konzultiranja šire zajednice. Kako su GTK i SDL prihvatili Mir patcheve na primjer bez puno buke? Zato jer nemaju special snowflakes kao što je on i gledaju širu sliku. Prema zadnjim informacijama i Mesa je već bila spremna prihvatiti Mir patcheve samo se čekalo na stabilni API u verziji 1.0, dakle praktički svi su ili prihvatili ili bili na putu prihvaćanja Mir patcheva, samo je on bio pametan pa odbio i to isključivo iz osobnih razloga. Gnome je odbio kao cjelina konvergenciju i to je ok jer je to njihovo pravo, KDE je odbio cijelu ideju i Mir display server radi jedne osobe, a danas pokušava napraviti isto što je Canonical pokušao napraviti. Znači jedna osoba je odlučila u ime KDEa i svih KDE korisnika što treba a što ne treba, maksimalno transparentno i u duhu "zajednice".
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To su više manje priče za van. Iza svega unutri je bitka za novac. Mark je otužio Johnatana da je trošio novce netransparentno, a ovaj Canonicala da nisu raspoređivali donacije po želji zajednice. Nema tu crno bijelo, i su svi podjednako krivi, zavisi koga pitaš. Sjecam se i posta Martina Groesslina kad ga je Canonical pritiskao da radi stvari u kwinu po njihovom, iako mu oni nisu poslodavac.

A nije baš da su samo kde i gnome tu imaju zadnju riječ. Oni su sitni igrači. Intel je rekao odlucno ne miru i Canonicalu davno
https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... o-own-way/

Navodno je Canonical prošle godine izgubio 300M€ .
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SJQkK6pTVCI
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