Manjaro fan club

[bertone]

@Fugu, upravo pokušao i dobio ovo: http://postimg.org/image/hy127f9ix/

I ??

[vision]

I ??

Nešto je pošlo po zlu s obzirom da ne javlja ništa

[bertone]

I ??

Nešto je pošlo po zlu s obzirom da ne javlja ništa

Nemoj odmah biti crnjak, možda je samo otišao na čaj s _______

[Fugu]

Možda je proradilo pa gleda onu božićnu tetu

[vision]

Onda ne bi trebalo da zapinje.

[Vl@do]

Tu sam na IRC-u
Što god da napravim kvačica na open-source uvijek ostaje kod vesa i video-ati. Da, probao sam catalyst i maknuo video ati, ali ništa.
Ostalo mi je još da probam vesa jedne i druge.

[trzalica]

Danas je bio "malo" veći update u Manjaro stable svijetu (moj update je bio 2.2gb težak).
Pošto je došlo do većih promjena u gcc-u, preporučljivo je rekompajlirati AUR pakete a to možete učiniti na poprilično jednostavan način da nakon updatea pokrenete ovu skriptu:

Kod: Označi sve

curl -s https://gist.githubusercontent.com/papajoker/61666b04b82e990a072e/raw/d98610b58dc956a38c84935105ba387be2550d08/upaur.sh | bash

[enkadeze]

Možda je ovo pitanje više primjereno za DE/KDE podforum, ali budući da se radi konkretno o Manjaru, ipak ću ga staviti ovdje...

Dakle, o čemu se radi: na Manjaru (KDE) sam cca zadnja 2 mjeseca.
Nakon dva mjeseca sam polagano počeo živčaniti zbog sporog dizanja sustava.
Naime, od trenutka kad se pojavi Grub boot loader pa sve dok sustav postane funkcionalan i klikabilan, protekne cca 2 minute. Meni je to previše, naviknut sam (od svima mrskih Windowsa koje sam prije koristio, pa do Ubuntua kojeg sam koristio u zadnjih godinu dana) na znatno brže podiznaje sustava.

Nažalost, s ovim sam se problemom počeo zabavljati tek jučer navečer, tako da baš nisam imao vremena prikupiti i izguglati previše informacija, ali ovo je ono kaj mogu podijeliti s vama:
od trenutka kada se pojavi Grub pa do KDE-ovog splash i loading screena protekne nekih 20-ak sekundi.
Nakon toga imam tu čast uživati u prizoru KDE-ovog loading screena nekih 1 minutu, a onda konačno, kada se i on makne, polagano gledam kako se Plasma diže još 30-ak sekundi.

systemd-analyze i systemd-analyze blame mi daje sljedeće informacije:

Kod: Označi sve

          8.541s systemd-journald.service
          6.483s dev-sda1.device
          3.633s lm_sensors.service
          3.151s ModemManager.service
          2.799s systemd-vconsole-setup.service
          2.369s systemd-user-sessions.service
          2.368s alsa-restore.service
          2.228s NetworkManager.service
          1.918s plymouth-start.service
          1.476s avahi-daemon.service
          1.263s systemd-journal-flush.service
           981ms systemd-modules-load.service
           962ms systemd-binfmt.service
           948ms systemd-rfkill.service
           932ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
           887ms plymouth-quit-wait.service
           884ms plymouth-quit.service
           826ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
           823ms dev-mqueue.mount
           732ms systemd-remount-fs.service
           731ms tmp.mount
           728ms dev-hugepages.mount
           594ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
           576ms udisks2.service
           534ms systemd-udevd.service
           533ms upower.service
           527ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-e42cd3ba\x2d5c18\x2d49bc\x2da8e9\x2dc600b701693d.service
           376ms systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service
           367ms polkit.service
           309ms user@1000.service
           306ms systemd-sysctl.service
           300ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
           273ms home.mount
           266ms systemd-logind.service
           235ms sys-kernel-config.mount
           192ms bluetooth.service
           149ms systemd-random-seed.service

Kod: Označi sve

[domagoj@asus ~]$ systemd-analyze 
Startup finished in 3.331s (kernel) + 17.488s (userspace) = 20.820s

Meni se ovdje ništa ne čini pretjerano sporno, ne?

systemctl:

Kod: Označi sve

[domagoj@asus ~]$ systemctl
UNIT                                                                                LOAD   ACTIVE SUB       DESCRIPTION
proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.automount                                                   loaded active running   Arbitrary Executable File Formats File System Automount Point
sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:02.0-drm-card1-card1\x2dLVDS\x2d1-intel_backlight.device loaded active plugged   /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card1/card1-LVDS-1/intel_backlight
sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1a.0-usb1-1\x2d1-1\x2d1.1-1\x2d1.1:1.0-bluetooth-hci0.device loaded active plugged   Bluetooth_USB_Host_Controller
sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1b.0-sound-card0.device                              loaded active plugged   7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller
sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1c.1-0000:03:00.0-net-wlp3s0.device                  loaded active plugged   AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1c.3-0000:04:00.2-net-enp4s0f2.device                loaded active plugged   RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata1-host0-target0:0:0-0:0:0:0-block-sda-sda1.device loaded active plugged   TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD050 1
sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata1-host0-target0:0:0-0:0:0:0-block-sda-sda2.device loaded active plugged   TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD050 2
sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata1-host0-target0:0:0-0:0:0:0-block-sda-sda3.device loaded active plugged   TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD050 3
sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata1-host0-target0:0:0-0:0:0:0-block-sda.device loaded active plugged   TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD050
sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata3-host2-target2:0:0-2:0:0:0-block-sr0.device loaded active plugged   HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GT70N
sys-devices-platform-serial8250-tty-ttyS0.device                                    loaded active plugged   /sys/devices/platform/serial8250/tty/ttyS0
sys-devices-platform-serial8250-tty-ttyS1.device                                    loaded active plugged   /sys/devices/platform/serial8250/tty/ttyS1
sys-devices-platform-serial8250-tty-ttyS2.device                                    loaded active plugged   /sys/devices/platform/serial8250/tty/ttyS2
sys-devices-platform-serial8250-tty-ttyS3.device                                    loaded active plugged   /sys/devices/platform/serial8250/tty/ttyS3
sys-devices-virtual-misc-rfkill.device                                              loaded active plugged   /sys/devices/virtual/misc/rfkill
sys-module-configfs.device                                                          loaded active plugged   /sys/module/configfs
sys-module-fuse.device                                                              loaded active plugged   /sys/module/fuse
sys-subsystem-bluetooth-devices-hci0.device                                         loaded active plugged   Bluetooth_USB_Host_Controller
sys-subsystem-net-devices-enp4s0f2.device                                           loaded active plugged   RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlp3s0.device                                             loaded active plugged   AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
-.mount                                                                             loaded active mounted   /
dev-hugepages.mount                                                                 loaded active mounted   Huge Pages File System
dev-mqueue.mount                                                                    loaded active mounted   POSIX Message Queue File System
home.mount                                                                          loaded active mounted   /home
proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount                                                       loaded active mounted   Arbitrary Executable File Formats File System
run-user-1000-gvfs.mount                                                            loaded active mounted   /run/user/1000/gvfs
run-user-1000.mount                                                                 loaded active mounted   /run/user/1000
sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount                                                       loaded active mounted   FUSE Control File System
sys-kernel-config.mount                                                             loaded active mounted   Configuration File System
sys-kernel-debug.mount                                                              loaded active mounted   Debug File System
tmp.mount                                                                           loaded active mounted   Temporary Directory
org.cups.cupsd.path                                                                 loaded active running   CUPS Scheduler
systemd-ask-password-console.path                                                   loaded active waiting   Dispatch Password Requests to Console Directory Watch
systemd-ask-password-plymouth.path                                                  loaded active waiting   Forward Password Requests to Plymouth Directory Watch
systemd-ask-password-wall.path                                                      loaded active waiting   Forward Password Requests to Wall Directory Watch
init.scope                                                                          loaded active running   System and Service Manager
session-c1.scope                                                                    loaded active running   Session c1 of user domagoj
alsa-restore.service                                                                loaded active exited    Save/Restore Sound Card State
avahi-daemon.service                                                                loaded active running   Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack
bluetooth.service                                                                   loaded active running   Bluetooth service
bumblebeed.service                                                                  loaded active running   Bumblebee C Daemon
cronie.service                                                                      loaded active running   Periodic Command Scheduler
dbus.service                                                                        loaded active running   D-Bus System Message Bus
kmod-static-nodes.service                                                           loaded active exited    Create list of required static device nodes for the current kernel
lm_sensors.service                                                                  loaded active exited    Initialize hardware monitoring sensors
ModemManager.service                                                                loaded active running   Modem Manager
NetworkManager.service                                                              loaded active running   Network Manager
ntpd.service                                                                        loaded active running   Network Time Service
org.cups.cupsd.service                                                              loaded active running   CUPS Scheduler
polkit.service                                                                      loaded active running   Authorization Manager
rtkit-daemon.service                                                                loaded active running   RealtimeKit Scheduling Policy Service
sddm.service                                                                        loaded active running   Simple Desktop Display Manager
systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service                                 loaded active exited    Load/Save Screen Backlight Brightness of backlight:intel_backlight
systemd-binfmt.service                                                              loaded active exited    Set Up Additional Binary Formats
systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-e42cd3ba\x2d5c18\x2d49bc\x2da8e9\x2dc600b701693d.service loaded active exited    File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/e42cd3ba-5c18-49bc-a8e9-c600b701693d
systemd-journal-flush.service                                                       loaded active exited    Flush Journal to Persistent Storage
systemd-journald.service                                                            loaded active running   Journal Service
systemd-logind.service                                                              loaded active running   Login Service
systemd-modules-load.service                                                        loaded active exited    Load Kernel Modules
systemd-random-seed.service                                                         loaded active exited    Load/Save Random Seed
systemd-remount-fs.service                                                          loaded active exited    Remount Root and Kernel File Systems
systemd-sysctl.service                                                              loaded active exited    Apply Kernel Variables
systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service                                                  loaded active exited    Create Static Device Nodes in /dev
systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service                                                      loaded active exited    Create Volatile Files and Directories
systemd-udev-trigger.service                                                        loaded active exited    udev Coldplug all Devices
systemd-udevd.service                                                               loaded active running   udev Kernel Device Manager
systemd-update-utmp.service                                                         loaded active exited    Update UTMP about System Boot/Shutdown
systemd-user-sessions.service                                                       loaded active exited    Permit User Sessions
systemd-vconsole-setup.service                                                      loaded active exited    Setup Virtual Console
tlp.service                                                                         loaded active exited    TLP system startup/shutdown
udisks2.service                                                                     loaded active running   Disk Manager
upower.service                                                                      loaded active running   Daemon for power management
user@1000.service                                                                   loaded active running   User Manager for UID 1000
wpa_supplicant.service                                                              loaded active running   WPA supplicant
-.slice                                                                             loaded active active    Root Slice
system-getty.slice                                                                  loaded active active    system-getty.slice
system-systemd\x2dbacklight.slice                                                   loaded active active    system-systemd\x2dbacklight.slice
system-systemd\x2dfsck.slice                                                        loaded active active    system-systemd\x2dfsck.slice
system.slice                                                                        loaded active active    System Slice
user-1000.slice                                                                     loaded active active    User Slice of domagoj
user.slice                                                                          loaded active active    User and Session Slice
avahi-daemon.socket                                                                 loaded active running   Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack Activation Socket
dbus.socket                                                                         loaded active running   D-Bus System Message Bus Socket
dm-event.socket                                                                     loaded active listening Device-mapper event daemon FIFOs
lvm2-lvmetad.socket                                                                 loaded active listening LVM2 metadata daemon socket
org.cups.cupsd.socket                                                               loaded active running   CUPS Scheduler
systemd-initctl.socket                                                              loaded active listening /dev/initctl Compatibility Named Pipe
systemd-journald-dev-log.socket                                                     loaded active running   Journal Socket (/dev/log)
systemd-journald.socket                                                             loaded active running   Journal Socket
systemd-rfkill.socket                                                               loaded active listening Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status /dev/rfkill Watch
systemd-udevd-control.socket                                                        loaded active running   udev Control Socket
systemd-udevd-kernel.socket                                                         loaded active running   udev Kernel Socket
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-9df7a993\x2db10a\x2d4380\x2dacf9\x2d2bf072e3827b.swap           loaded active active    /dev/disk/by-uuid/9df7a993-b10a-4380-acf9-2bf072e3827b
basic.target                                                                        loaded active active    Basic System
bluetooth.target                                                                    loaded active active    Bluetooth
cryptsetup.target                                                                   loaded active active    Encrypted Volumes
getty.target                                                                        loaded active active    Login Prompts
graphical.target                                                                    loaded active active    Graphical Interface
local-fs-pre.target                                                                 loaded active active    Local File Systems (Pre)
local-fs.target                                                                     loaded active active    Local File Systems
multi-user.target                                                                   loaded active active    Multi-User System
network.target                                                                      loaded active active    Network
paths.target                                                                        loaded active active    Paths
remote-fs.target                                                                    loaded active active    Remote File Systems
slices.target                                                                       loaded active active    Slices
sockets.target                                                                      loaded active active    Sockets
sound.target                                                                        loaded active active    Sound Card
swap.target                                                                         loaded active active    Swap
sysinit.target                                                                      loaded active active    System Initialization
time-sync.target                                                                    loaded active active    System Time Synchronized
timers.target                                                                       loaded active active    Timers
logrotate.timer                                                                     loaded active waiting   Daily rotation of log files
man-db.timer                                                                        loaded active waiting   Daily man-db cache update
shadow.timer                                                                        loaded active waiting   Daily verification of password and group files
systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer                                                        loaded active waiting   Daily Cleanup of Temporary Directories

Nema servisa koji su failali.

U System Settings > Autostart i Background Services sam provjerio kaj je sve naštimano da se diže sa sustavom i od background servisa isključio samo bluetooth (ostalo mi se činilo korisno),
Zajedno sa sustavom mi se dižu i qBitTorrent, Dropbox (Dropbox sam stavio tek nedavno tako da on definitivno ne utječe previše na samo dizanje sustava budući da mi boot time ionako nije već u startu bio baš idealan) i Yakuake (koji iz nekog razloga dosad još nisam pokušao disableati; sad ću još i to isprobati pa vidjeti kako će se ponašati).

Uglavnom, da skratim, ima li netko od vas kakvu ideju ili prijedlog kaj još pokušati?

KDE mi se zbilja sviđa i osim kaj mi se ponekad (rijetko, doduše) skrši, nemam nekih velikih zamjerki.
Međutim, ova sporost me toliko ubija da sam spreman isprobati Manjaro Gnome (navodno se Gnome 3 dosta popravio od vremena kad sam se zadnji put igrao s njim, dao bih mu šansu) ili se čak vratio na Ubuntu Unity (koji mi je dojadio malo).
Mate me ne privlači previše, Cinnamon mi je još uvijek nekako nedorađen, XFCE i sl. lightweight DE-ovi mi nisu oku ugodni...
Polako ću ostati (ili sam već ostao?) bez alternativa ako nastavim ovim tempom.

Aha, da, informacije o laptopu:
Asus K55VJ, i5-3210M @ 2.50GHz, 4 GB RAM.

Eto, hvala!

[vision]

Pa nemaš problem sa boot-om jer kao što si napisao prođe za 20 sek. Probaj ovako:
onemogući akonadi - u ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc

Kod: Označi sve

StartServer=false

compositor - Systemsettings→Display and Monitor→Compositor
onemogući ili pod rendering postavi XRender
splash screen - Systemsettings→Workspace Theme→Splash Screen
None.
Napravi reboot pa vidi.

[enkadeze]

Ok, valjda se nespretno izražavam, ali skužili ste poantu.

Onemogućio sam akonadi i pokušao i s XRenderom kao i isključivanjem compositora i nijedna od tih akcija nažalost nije pomogla.