18 stu 2017, 18:08
shrike je napisao/la:branac88 je napisao/la:Štos je što se i prelazilo na linux iz pragmatičnih razloga, a ne iz nekoga idealizma tj. ljubavi prema slobodnome softwareu. Dokle god imaju korist od tih obrata, dotle će se tako i ponašati.
...a vjerojatno će to biti i poslije 2020.
I treba se prelaziti na stvari iz pragmatičnih razloga a ne iz ljubavi. Inače bi mogao nektko predložiti da se pređe na zx-80 ili amigu ili plan 9 jer su mu baš fora.
18 stu 2017, 18:41
branac88 je napisao/la:..... Vjerojatno je lobi kojima winsi odgovaraju počeo ulagati više love......
........kako bi prvo trebalo uvesti na razini države/EU/svijeta obavezni standard otvorenog formata.....
18 stu 2017, 18:49
This was not even the reason to give throw it under the bus. Most of the specific use cases were already moved to linux, they had reimplements their forms systems to use libre office and some of the software that could only be used on windows was available over remote desktop, their own client was a modified Ubuntu LTS Version and they were on their way to implement a Linux Groupware Solution (Kolab, I think) to get exchange functionality, especially for the higher ups, as they wanted to have it on their smartphones.
Then MS started to move their Headquarters to Munich and the city council to lobby to replace linux. They asked Accenture (!!!) to check, if change was necessary and the non-public part of the report told that the IT Mismanagement was a much bigger factor than any hardware/OS/Tools Issue at hand.
The public part was used to make Limux scapegoat for everything and tasking Microsoft to create a single client solution, damn the cost.
The cost must be ridicules, because now their solution and the cost are "secret", but some people already estimated what the new hardware for windows 10 might cost (as they could use Limux on very very old machines) and that covers not even all the cost for new software licenses for stuff they had already build in Limux.
This is more politics and corruption than technical merit.
18 stu 2017, 19:08
Bunker je napisao/la:branac88 je napisao/la:..... Vjerojatno je lobi kojima winsi odgovaraju počeo ulagati više love......
Jedino tko moze imati koristi od windowsa je microsoft, i njihovo je legitimno pravo da lobiraju , ulažu novac, daju extrapovoljne uvjete, obećavaju radna mjesta.... Ukoliko konkurencija to nemoze ponuditi za svoj artikal, onda to nije problem microsofta već prednost microsofta a mana te konkurencije....
18 stu 2017, 19:10
jurastublic je napisao/la:Samo ću zalijepiti jedan od komentara iz slashdota kao sažetak situacije (https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/11/1 ... 0#comments) - sve se to moglo bezbolnije napraviti, kako dolje kaže - korupcija (MS je prebacio sjedište u Minhen i imaju gradonačelnika u džepu), IT mismanagement - još uvijek koriste MS Exchange kao mail server, radili su svoju distru umjesto Suse ili Ubuntu, koriste 400 namjenskih Win programa koji ne rade u Linuxu - 400 bokte??? Gospodo IT-ovci, maknite 80% dupliranih ili kvadrupliranih aplikacija, prvo njih prebacite na FOSS crossplatform i na kraju dolazi prelazak na drugi OS. Ali meh, kod nas u HR je tako i bez linuxa.
- Kod:
This was not even the reason to give throw it under the bus. Most of the specific use cases were already moved to linux, they had reimplements their forms systems to use libre office and some of the software that could only be used on windows was available over remote desktop, their own client was a modified Ubuntu LTS Version and they were on their way to implement a Linux Groupware Solution (Kolab, I think) to get exchange functionality, especially for the higher ups, as they wanted to have it on their smartphones.
Then MS started to move their Headquarters to Munich and the city council to lobby to replace linux. They asked Accenture (!!!) to check, if change was necessary and the non-public part of the report told that the IT Mismanagement was a much bigger factor than any hardware/OS/Tools Issue at hand.
The public part was used to make Limux scapegoat for everything and tasking Microsoft to create a single client solution, damn the cost.
The cost must be ridicules, because now their solution and the cost are "secret", but some people already estimated what the new hardware for windows 10 might cost (as they could use Limux on very very old machines) and that covers not even all the cost for new software licenses for stuff they had already build in Limux.
This is more politics and corruption than technical merit.
18 stu 2017, 20:05
18 stu 2017, 20:27
Bunker je napisao/la:Glede spijuniranja, pa netreba njima tvoj pc kad im je u rukama kompletna internetska struktura ( google, fb, ..... )
18 stu 2017, 20:40
branac88 je napisao/la:....
Nadam se da shvaćaš što hoću reći.
18 stu 2017, 20:50
Bunker je napisao/la:branac88 je napisao/la:....
Nadam se da shvaćaš što hoću reći.
Nisi me skonto, a i ja sam se povrsno izrazio: Htio sam reći da im tvoj pc kao ni gradski pc nije presudan jer imaju kontrolu nad svim kanalima razmjene informacija ( sateliti, podmorski kabeli, serveri,mobilne mreze.... Enkripcija ti isto nista nevrijedi jer ih je vecinu pustila NSA u pogon...
18 stu 2017, 21:08